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David Bowie replaced? « Thread Started on Feb 14, 2007, 3:33am » |
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It has been suggested from a forum which I cannot link to from here that David Bowie was replaced. I don't know if this is supposed to be a joke or not. Quote:
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #1 on Apr 26, 2007, 5:12am » |
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Good call. I went to youtube and found a Dick Cavett interview with the real Bowie from 1974. Also, there is a short interview with Russell Harty in 1973 that is obviously a different person than Fowie. The rest of this interview was mysteriously “erased.” The links are below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ziB4AEcSQ&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8_ElVyqNWA&mode=related&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW2JdKNlYDw Fowie (or Fooey) seems to make his debut on a Russell Harty Interview in 1975. This is part one of seven: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsvKO0jHL8&mode=related&search= Fowie seems nervous and is trying his best to appear as Bowie. The real Bowie seemed like an introvert and slightly uncomfortable around people. Fowie tries to mimic this in the beginning, but later it seems like he gave up on this act. They made up a story about how Bowie “retired” in America for a year or so and didn’t talk to anyone around this time. Fowie also later appeared on “The Dinah Shore Show” in 1975. A real strange place for an avant garde rocker. This replacement is easy to spot, since the real Bowie had a longer, bonier face, a unique voice and English accent, and a taller and thinner body. The real Bowie had a body you just can’t duplicate, not to mention, more musical talent. Fowie has a more round face. Bowie was also more intelligent, soft spoken, and, of course, creative than Fowie. I can’t believe I didn’t notice this a long time ago, since it seems as one of the easier copies to spot. But now I know why his music style completely changed after 1974. Bowie always had a tight, fresh sound. Wikipedia states that his fans were disappointed with his new musical direction around this time. Hmmm, I wonder why. The real Bowie was afraid of flying and would travel only by boat or train. It would be interesting to see how Fowie travels now. Also, in the 1974 interview with Cavett, Bowie states that he will continue creating characters to play, like “Ziggy Stardust,” in his music act. Then in the 1975 Harty interview, Fowie says he will play “himself” from now on. Wow, what a change of heart in only a year. In the Cavett interview, Bowie seems coked up, so I guess some people will try to explain that the changes were from rehab. But you don’t physically metamorphisize from rehab. You obviously can’t replace talent. How weird. It looks like they replaced these people so far as we know: Paul McCartney Eric Clapton David Bowie Courtney Cox Doris Day BB King There are others, but these seem to be the most interesting. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #2 on Apr 27, 2007, 7:46am » |
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I never noticed this before but it is a different guy. Even the teeth are different. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #3 on May 1, 2007, 7:54am » |
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Yeah, the top teeth protruded with Bowie making it seem like he had buck teeth. Here’s a great performance of the real Bowie singing Five Years. They do a close up at 1:50 and you can really get a good look at his face. This video is also good for ear and nose comparison. It seems like Bowie’s ears stuck out more than Fowie. You can see how bad of a replacement Fowie is, but amazingly he still gets away with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louXPUW7tHU&mode=related&search= Compare with this video of Fowie doing the same song. You can get a good look at the back of Fowie's body and see that he's not as lanky as Bowie was: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GljaNHyT2E&mode=related&search= This is an interesting video, because it shows the real Bowie describing how he likes to create characters and that he considers himself an actor. Bowie talks in a very direct way without trying to make what he does more than it is. You only see Bowie in makeup in this short video. Then the video cuts to Fowie intellectualizing that period in his life, talking about Japanese theater, which makes him sound very phoney. Fowie also says that he has no idea what he was trying to do at that time. He doesn’t look as comfortable as Faul when he’s lying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36c1w0nyfuM&mode=related&search= Here are some interesting lyrics from a song Fowie did in 1980 called Ashes To Ashes. It seems like Bowie was a major cokehead, because he was always touching his face in interviews. So maybe this song is a clue how he died. There’s also a link to the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r44OFO-MNPo&mode=related&search= Do you remember a guy thats been In such an early song Ive heard a rumour from ground control Oh no, dont say its true They got a message from the action man Im happy, hope youre happy too Ive loved all Ive needed love Sordid details following The shrieking of nothing is killing Just pictures of jap girls in synthesis and i Aint got no money and I aint got no hair But Im hoping to kick but the planet its glowing Ashes to ashes, funk to funky We know major toms a junkie Strung out in heavens high Hitting an all-time low Time and again I tell myself Ill stay clean tonight But the little green wheels are following me Oh no, not again Im stuck with a valuable friend Im happy, hope youre happy too One flash of light but no smoking pistol I never done good things I never done bad things I never did anything out of the blue, woh-o-oh Want an axe to break the ice Wanna come down right now Ashes to ashes, funk to funky We know major toms a junkie Strung out in heavens high Hitting an all-time low My mother said to get things done Youd better not mess with major tom My mother said to get things done Youd better not mess with major tom My mother said to get things done Youd better not mess with major tom My mother said to get things done Youd better not mess with major tom Here’s some interesting info from Wikipedia: Bowie commented that the resulting live album David Live ought really to be called "David Bowie Is Alive and Well and Living Only In Theory", presumably referring to his addled psychological state during this frenetic period. Nevertheless the album solidified his status as a superstar, going #2 in the UK and #8 in the US. It also spawned a UK #10 hit in a cover of "Knock on Wood". After the opening leg of the tour, Bowie mostly jettisoned the elaborate sets. Then, when the tour resumed after a summer break in Philadelphia for recording new material, the Diamond Dogs sound no longer seemed apt. Bowie cancelled seven dates and made changes to the band, which returned to the road in October as the Philly Dogs tour. For Ziggy Stardust fans who had not discerned the soul and funk strains already apparent in Bowie's recent work, the "new" sound was considered a sudden and jolting step. 1975's Young Americans was Bowie's definitive exploration of Philly soul — though he himself referred to the sound ironically as 'plastic soul'. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #4 on May 2, 2007, 8:49am » |
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And what about the "Labyrinth" movie??? Was it Bowie or Fowie??? |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #5 on May 2, 2007, 9:10pm » |
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It was Fowie. He has been replaced by the Osirisites too. No one is safe. Lock your doors. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #6 on May 3, 2007, 8:31am » |
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You are funny Is the real Bowie dead??? |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #7 on May 4, 2007, 4:25am » |
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I take it you’re a little slow and have a strange sense of humor. Don’t worry, cognitive dissonance can be overcome....but not for trolls, who have a job to do obscuring or ridiculing the obvious. David Bowie....add him to the list. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #8 on May 4, 2007, 4:26pm » |
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How come was Fowie's alleged first interview removed on youtube?? |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #9 on May 6, 2007, 6:17pm » |
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Here are some Bowie photos to compare http://s95084514.onlinehome.us/images/blog/bowie_collage.jpg |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #10 on May 8, 2007, 4:39am » |
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I don't know if you mean the video that I linked to in my earlier post. That video was taken down shortly after I linked to it. Maybe it was just a copyright violation. The strange thing was that interview was mostly "erased" and only the first minute survived. I guess any portion of that video wasn't supposed to survive. It provided strong evidence that Bowie was replaced. You can really tell the difference from that video. But it's not really needed, since the cat is out of the bag. Other videos are just as good. Hopefully, it will resurface. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #11 on Oct 6, 2007, 11:00am » |
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So the real Bowie was on the Dick Cavett show on December 5, 1974, On March 1, 1975 he presents an award at the Grammys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJkOCEVjwQo The picture quality is fairly poor - Is this Bowie or Fowie? I'm not sure. Seems like it could be Fowie. But John Lennon and Yoko Ono are in the audience. Would John be friends with Bowie and Fowie? Filming for "The Man Who Fell To Earth" started from June through to September 1975. Angie Bowie went to filming and their marriage is under "increasing strain". Hmm I haven't seen this film for a while. Again, Bowie or Fowie? The Dinah Shore Interview was actually shown on January 3, 1976. So there is a short timeline. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #12 on Oct 8, 2007, 6:19am » |
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Nice find. Very interesting. It's hard to say who that is since the picture quality is not very good. Personally, I think it's Fowie. He doesn't seem to have the hair volume or face shape of Bowie and the English accent isn't as crisp. Bowie was much more hyper. This guy is too calm and using the glasses makes him look old. I don't remember the real Bowie wearing glasses. Also, I think Bowie was taller. Look at him when he gives the award to Aretha. Fowie is listed at 5'10. Bowie seems taller. The Grammys were on March 1, 1975. As far as John being friends with Bowie or Fowie. I could see him being friends with both, since he's already had practice with Paul and Faul. Also, there seems to be evidence that Bowie sang about Paul. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #13 on Oct 9, 2007, 2:53pm » |
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So as far as I am aware there were no public appearances by either Bowie or the replacement Fowie from the time of the Dec 5 Cavett interview and the Mar 1 Grammys. During December 1974 and January 1975 Bowie was apparently working on the "Young Americans" album with help from John Lennon. He was dividing his time between New York and LA, where John was living. John urged him to take control of his career. Feb 21 - The single "Fame" was released Mar 7 - "Young Americans" album released. Bowie's face on the cover. In the Dick Cavett interview Bowie is clearly off his head on cocaine. I have no idea how ill he was. Interestingly, he was going on about "black noise" and how it could kill entire cities and how you could walk into the French patent office and buy the patent for it for 40 pence. Perhaps this provides some evidence that certain "people" thought that one of their disposable commodities was becoming too dangerous?? It may not have gone down too well that he was revealing secrets only the elite few feel they should know about? And the 1993 album has "White Noise" in the title (Black Tie, White Noise). Sounds like the "black noise" thing may not have been so small a deal. Not sure, just throwing ideas out there. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #14 on Aug 28, 2010, 5:44pm » |
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I believe that Bowie is still the real Bowie. It has been well documented that Bowie was mostly strung out on cocaine and anti-social during the time period speculated as his switch to Fowie. I've known people that have become strung out on hard drugs and they do turn into someone else. Their physical presence is greatly altered and their creativity almost always dries up. I think saying Bowie was replaced just sounds like a way to excuse a lot of bad material that he created/performed. Bowie didn't have the same far-reaching cultural impact that the Beatles did. Oh sure he may have been popular, even very popular. However, there wasn't the cross generational appeal to Bowie that the Beatles had. That is why the Beatles were infinitely more important culturally and socially. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #15 on Aug 28, 2010, 9:02pm » |
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Sorry to disappoint u, but DAVID BOWIE is long gone. All u have to do is research carefully and keep ur mind open. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #16 on Aug 29, 2010, 1:54am » |
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Why was he replaced? What was there to gain? If it was something as simple as Bowie sending out a doppelganger because he didn't want to tour, fine. But I repeat my above statement...Bowie was/is not as important socially/culturally/musically as the Beatles. Who benefits from this switch from Bowie to Fowie? I agree with the PID idea, but not all of the theories because too many people had a vested interest in the continuation of the Beatles whether or nor Paul met his end accidentally or through more nefarious means. I don't see those same interests at stake in the Bowie situation. And khamira, remember this; there is nothing more closed than an "open mind." |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #17 on Aug 29, 2010, 1:58am » |
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I just re-read my last post. The second paragraph should read: I agree with the PID idea, but not all of the theories. Too many people had a vest interest... Just a minor correction. |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #18 on Nov 23, 2010, 12:54am » |
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The "man" who fell to earth....where could this idea have come from? Imagination or was there something otherworldly about the "replacement" known as David Bowie?? Something extremely peculiar about the "space oddity" known as David Bowie, or those in the doppleganger conspiracy theorists may call "Favid Fauxie" |
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Re: David Bowie
replaced? « Reply #19 on Jun 20, 2011, 12:59am » |
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Hello. I had never heard of this theory before a couple of days ago when I ran across this thread. I'm still on the fence with it, though. I'm gonna share with you some of the info that I've picked up in my short studies, and my observations and confusion. Hopefully you can give me some insight on the full story of this replacement. I can really see the differences in Bowie's face between photos taken in '73 and '76, but in earlier photos of him, before he shaved his eyebrows, I can see identical features in him and the person who supposedly replaced him. Compare these photos of him, the first of a young Bowie taken around the time of his first album, '67, I think. The second is from much later, I would guess '78, maybe? The pictures are taken from the same angle and there are apparent parallels between the features of the two faces. Here's another comparison example. The first photo looks like it was taken around '76, the second was the cover of the '72 reissue of "Space Oddity." Again, the facial plains are almost identical: The only variance I would consider noteworthy was the unfamiliar aggression in Fowie's face in this photo and almost every image of him after the supposed replacement. Bowie almost never looked aggressive or confrontational, which is practically Fowie's middle name, given his persona in interviews. I'm wondering whether the difference in appearance could be due to him removing his eyebrows in '73, and the difference in persona and voice due to cocaine use? There aren't any pictures of Bowie that I've seen in which it appears his eyebrows are in the process of growing back. On the cover of "Young Americans" (which I think would be Bowie, rather than Fowie) his eyebrows are still gone, then suddenly in the '75 Russell Harty interview his eyebrows are back. Here is who I think is the real Bowie on the cover of "Young Americans", and the picture on the back cover of the same album on the '99 CD reissue. A perfect comparison right there on one CD. The back photo looks like it was taken very soon after the the cover photo, yet he looks inexplicably different, eyebrows and all. Am I right that there wouldn't be any pictures of Fowie without eyebrows, or do you guys that that's the fake on the cover, as well? I don't understand that change, nor do I understand why he looks so much more similar to the way Bowie normally does in the video to "Heroes" in '77. Is the theory that he continued to get plastic surgery operations during that time period? See the facial parallels in his first TV appearance in 1970 (scroll forward to 1:23 for the only good close-up in the video)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY5a3Un3y8g ...and the official music video to "Heroes" seven years later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgcc5V9Hu3g&feature=relmfu To me this looks like the same guy, but not the same guy that's in that 75' Russel Harty interview around the release of "Station to Station." Later on, in pictures and videos of him as an older person, he begins to look like one of those people who has had extensive plastic surgery, like Joan Rivers, or someone. Especially in the eyebrows, as if he had them lifted when he became Bowie and it started to show later on. Here's a couple of videos that have picture slides which I've found useful. The first has a bunch of photos that appear to have been taken before 1970, and the second is all photos from the time period just before he was supposedly replaced, looking similar to the cover of "Young Americans." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3S7Imi22Mg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBwDGiGwzE0 This is all I'll type for now. Thanks. |