John Lash Evil Reptilians Archons
Karmapolis Interview with John Lash
Karmapolis: We have been discussing the idea that a
parasite exists and rules our mind. How can we demonstrate to our readership
that this parasite exists and that the idea of “mental infection” is not
delusional ?
JLL: Like an infection, the mental parasite would be detected by its symptoms.
Malaria, for , produces violent symptoms caused by a foreign entity that
invades the body. To think clearly about the parasites, we must consider that
certain behavior, and certain forms of thinking, in particular religious
ideologies, would be symptomatic of an infection or foreign invasion of the
human mind.
Karmapolis: What is the nature and the origin of this
parasite ? Is it a interdimensional intelligence? Is it possible that it takes
an organic form?
JLL: According to the Gnostics, the parasites or Archons, as they called them,
originate with the earliest phase of the formation of the solar system, before
the Earth coalesced as a planetary organism. Their habitat is the solar system,
exclusive of the Earth, moon and sun. They are inorganic forms with intelligence
of an electrical nature – cyborgs, as we would say.
Karmapolis: The Gnostic Texts (Nag Hammadi Codices, NHC)
describe the Eons and the Archons. To explain it simply to our readership, what
are the differences between the Eons and the Archons ?
JLL: In Gnostic cosmology, Aeons or Eons are gods, deities, divinities. They are
not creator-gods or point entities, however. They are rather like massive alive,
aware, currents. They are the forces that form the central core of the galaxy we
inhabit, the Pleroma. Archons are an anomalous species of inorganic beings that
arise outside the Pleroma, in the limbs or arms of the galaxy. They are
called Archons (from Greek archai, “elementary, from the beginning”)
because they arise first, before the Earth is formed. Their bodies are formed of
elementary matter (quantum fields) in a pre-organic state.
Karmapolis: Do you think that the flyers described by
Castaneda and the Archons of the Gnostics are really the same thing?
JLL: Yes, I am convinced they are the same.
Karmapolis: What was the personal event that happened in
your life that focussed your attention on the idea that a parasite like the
Archons, the flyers or some kind of extraterrestrial entities, affect our
perception of the universe?
JLL: The sense that something distorts our perception has come to me gradually,
not triggered by a specific personal event. However, I did have remarkable
("occult") experiences from the age of four, such as lucid dreams in which I
encountered magical beings who came to assist or teach me, as well as other
beings who attacked me. I have been directly aware of both kinds of intervention
since that age.
Karmapolis: Do you think that some extraterrestrial
beings like the Annunaki or the Grays are the incarnations of this parasite, or
that those alien beings are more shadowed or possessed (than us) by this
parasite, this predatory intelligence?
JLL: I follow the Gnostic teachings that the primary predatory intelligence
facing humanity is the Archontes. I believe that they are identical with the
Annunaki and the modern Grays.
Karmapolis: The Gnostics warned us about this predatory
creature: they described the Archons and told us how we can be affected by them.
Did the Archons create us? What is the legacy they gave us?
JLL: The Gnostics taught that the Archons did not create us, but they are caught
in a delusion, and they think they are our creators. One of their main goals is
to convince us that they created us – in effect, to get us to think as they do.
As far as I know, there is no “legacy” we have received from the Archon ETs.
They are inferior to us in will and intelligence, though superior in
navigational technology for travelling among the planets, in telepathy and
techniques of imitation (virtual reality). I believe that the Archons are
identical with the “Watchers” of Enoch, entities who are credited with teaching
metal-working and cosmetic adornment to humanity. If the Gnostics were correct,
the Archon ETs attempt to take credit for imparting certain skills like this to
humanity, but the claim is false, I believe. We ourselves have discovered these
skills, but forgotten how, so we are susceptible to accept the explanation of a
foreign or alien intervention.
Karmapolis: Do you believe that the Archons can take an
organic form to exist? Do you believe for instance that the Archons and the
Greys are the same thing?
JLL: In my understanding, the Archons are an inorganic species. Perhaps silicon
and mercury, as Kerner suggests. The Greys are cyborgs, resembling human form –
or, to be precise, the form of a premature fetus. Gnostic texts describe the
production of the Archon species as an abortion, hence the form of a premature
human body. The Archons are only body, they have no soul. Yes, I am convinced
that the Gnostic Archons are identical with modern Greys of the embryonic type.
Whitley Streiber observed that the Grey ETs exhibit a high degree of neotony –
that is, they have the form of an entity that is not fully formed when it is
born.
Karmapolis: In their interpretation of Gnostic texts,
scholars outline the crucial role played by an individual they call Jesus
Christ. This character warned us about the Archons. Is this the same Jesus known
from the New Testament ? Why is the message from Jesus contained in the New
Testament and in the Nag Hammadi Codices so different? If it is not the same
character, is the “Christ” in Gnostic writings a power that possesses some
people (such as “prophets”), and is the power described in the NHC texts
completely different from the one described in the New Testament ?
JLL: These are big and troublesome questions. Some of the language in these
questions reflects the typical confusion - or disinformation, if you will -
about Gnostic materials. In fact, the name Christ never occurs in the Nag
Hammadi Codices, nor does the name Jesus. Rather, there is a recurring code:
Coptic XC or XRC (translated CHS or CHRS) and IC or HC (translated IS). For
instance, in The Tripartite Tractate (117.10) you find HC in Coptic,
and the translators modify this to H(COY)C, “Esous,” then translated into the
name Jesus. You can see how far scholars must go to manipulate the codes and
make them fit a preconception. Most Gnostic texts use the terms “the Savior,”
the “Lord” and the “Revealer,” with no specific mention of Jesus or Christ at
all.
Scholars who come from a Christian background and consider the NHC to be early
Christian writings routinely decode XRC as Christ, or sometimes as Chrest, and
IC as Jesus. There is, however, no clear or firm basis for this convention. I am
convinced that these codes do not refer either to “the Christ” of Saint Paul or
the “historical Jesus” of the New Testament. The codes are used precisely to
avoid those identifications. The term “the living Jesus” found in the NHC refers
to an inner guide or psychic entity, not a historical person. To Gnostics “the
living Jesus” indicated a spiritual force that does not die, hence it could not
be a real human person. Jesus Christ in the NT says things that would never have
been said by a Gnostic initiate. His words and acts are inconsistent with an
illumined teacher from the Mysteries. The Gnostic Christos is not the Christ,
the Only-Begotten Son of God, in the theology of John and Paul. The Gnostic
Christos is an Aeon, a divine force that does not assume human form. Gnostics
denied the Incarnation. In their view, no human person has the privilege to
incarnate an Aeon, a Divinity.
Karmapolis: Do you see a tendency (even very small) in the Roman Catholic
church to recognize the legitimacy of the Nag Hammadi texts, including the
existence of the Archons, or in fact to deny the content and the pertinence, the
relevance of the Nag Hammadi materials?
JLL: I see no tendency to recognize the genuine non-Christian character of the
NHC, and certainly no tendency to recognize the Archons. Bear in mind that
Gnostic teachings attribute Roman Catholic religion (the salvationist belief
system) to the deviant mental influence of the Archons. If Catholic authorities
were to recognize the Gnostic message, they would be admitting that their belief
system is an extraterrestrial implant in the human mind!
Karmapolis: People often compare the importance of the
discovery of the Nag Hammadi texts with the Dead Sea Scrolls. As far as you
know, can we find in the Dead Sea Scrolls the same warning about the Archons,
about the fact that the creation of the universe is a mistake contained in the
NHC ? Who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls and who wrote the NHC? Were they enemies?
JLL: Great question. This connection, between the DSS and the NHC, is crucial.
To my knowledge no scholar has indicated the cross-references between these
ancient texts, but they do exist. Let me elaborate.
The DSS do not warn us about the Archons because they were written by an
extremist sect who were manipulated by the Archons. The Zaddikim (“Righteous
Ones”) of the Dead Sea was a violent, apocalyptic sect dedicated to celestial
beings, called the Kenoshim, who appeared to them in shining chariots. Some DSS
texts (notably, 4Q405, in the Sabbath Songs) describe the appearance and
movement of flying saucer type UFOs exactly as they are described in modern
sightings. In short, I am convinced that the sect at Qumran was an apocalyptic
cult of UFO contactees, like the suicide cult, Heaven´s Gate. South of Qumran
was a Gnostic encampment of a group called the Archontics – who took this name,
I believe, because it was their mission to spy upon the Archons who were
controlling the Zaddikim. In one Gnostic text, the Apocalypse of James (25.15),
the Revealer says, “Jerusalem is the dwelling place of many Archons.” I am
certain that many Gnostics from the Mystery temples in the Near East were aware
of the intrusion of the Archons. They detected the aliens and their effect, a
mental or psychic infection that took the form of religious madness. Jerusalem
was highly infected, and so was Qumran.
The NHC does not say that “the universe is a mistake.” It says that the world
system we inhabit, our planetary system, is an anomaly due to the presence of
the Archons who impinge upon life on earth. Gnostic cosmology explains the
emergence of the Archons at the cosmic level, so Gnostics understood the origin
and behavior of these alien entities. The Dead Sea sectarians were completely
duped by the Archons whom they saw as celestial Angels. They believed that the
Archon leader, Jehovah, was their creator God. Gnostics viewed these beliefs as
religious madness due to the ideological virus spread by the Archons. Several
passages in the DSS scrolls refer directly to Gnostics who are considered to be
arch-enemies of the Zaddikim. To my knowledge, no scholar has pointed out that
the Dead Sea cult targeted the Gnostics in this manner. The Zaddikim wanted to
completely destroy the Gnostics. If my theory is correct, we can understand why.
One more point: the Nag Hammadi Codices were discovered in December 1945, but
their importance was not recognized until the summer of 1947, exactly when the
Dead Sea Scrolls were found. Readers will of course realize that the summer of
1947 was the time of Kenneth Arnold´s UFO sighting of flying saucers, and the
Roswell incident. It is amazing that ancient materials written by an ET/UFO
cult, as well as other materials, exposing the nature of that cult, surfaced at
the exact moment of the 1947 wave and the Roswell incident. This is truly
“cosmic coincidence.”
Karmapolis: Why was the Roman Catholic Church so
stubborn, and so reluctant to give access to the Dead Sea Scrolls? Was it the
same reaction for the Nag Hammadi materials?
JLL: The Vatican controlled the international team of scholars associated with
the Ecole Biblique in Jerusalem. These scholars, such as de Vaux and Milik,
withheld the DSS materials because they show the true origins of Christianity in
a very negative light. The DSS texts reveal that the ideology of salvation in
Christianity did not originate with Jesus, but came through the Zaddikim cult.
This is a nasty blow to Christian belief in the uniqueness of their religion.
With the Nag Hammadi materials, a different team of scholars was engaged. They
did not delay or dissimulate. However, it must be noted that the usual
interpretation of the NHC is very favorable to Christianity, or made to look
that way. Consequently, the NHC are less threatening to Christian faith than the
DSS. However, in my radical interpretation of the Gnostic teachings, the message
of the NHC is clearly anti-Christian: that is, against the ideology of divine
redemption, not against love, kindness, and good works, of course. (But then,
love, kindness, and good works are not the monopoly of Christians, are they?)
Karmapolis: Anthropologists like Michael Harner or
Carlos Castaneda gave the same kind of description of a mysterious creature:
Harner saw in a vision the Maninkaris, a black creature, a mix between a whale
and a reptile (pterodactile). These creatures need to hide themselves and are
considered by the Indians of Amazonia to be the source of all life on earth.
Castaneda describes the flyers as horrible black and huge fishy creatures that
eat the consciousness of mankind. Can we compare those creatures? Do you think
that they have the same nature?
JLL: No, I don´t find this comparison to be valid. The vision of the Amazonian
Indians is probably an ancestral memory of the origins of human life. Gnostic
teachings on this matter are similar to those of indigenous peoples who claim
that the “first people” came from the skies. This is called panspermia
in modern science: the seeding of the human species on Earth from an
extraterrestrial source. In the imagination of native peoples like those who
initiated Harner, the seeds of life arrive in huge canoes, worms, dragons, and
other such forms. This is a way to visualize panspermia. DNA itself can be
visualized as a coiling serpent.
Castaneda’s description of the flyers refers to a totally different phenomenon,
a type of predatory being that is bat-like or dragon-like. Throughout history
the dragon has been viewed as a benign angelic figure, even a type of superior
consciousness, but the “reptilian” type of the Archon described by Gnostics is
different. We must exert some imagination and distinguish the universal dragon
“archetype” from the specific form of the predatory alien, the reptilian Archon,
called “drakonic” in the NHC.
Karmapolis: Why do you compare the Gnostic knowledge to
shamanism? Did the Gnostics engage in research about cognition, and other ways
to perceive reality? Did they use hallucinogenic substances like shamans use
ayahuasca, peyote or psilocybin ?
JLL: Don Juan says that sorcery (shamanism) is about shifting the parameters of
perception. I believe that Gnostics were masters of this practice. They were
heirs to a long tradition of shamanism deriving from the indigenous peoples of
Europe and Asia going back to Paleolithic times. In Gnosis, the path of
heightened perception (to use Castaneda´s term), we see a sophisticated method
of shamanism, a kind of high-tech shamanism, if you will. Techniques of
paranormal perception were taught and transmitted in the Mystery Schools founded
and led by gnostokoi, “those who know about divine or supernatural matters.”
According to the “Wasson thesis,” the ritual use of psychoactive plants was the
basis of all genuine religion on Earth. Gordon Wasson and Albert Hofmann, the
Swiss chemist who discovered LSD, proposed that the kykeon, the sacred potion
drunk at the Eleusinian Mysteries, was a mixture of ergot fungus, the organic
basis of LSD. Hence, it was a psychedelic potion. Much solid research has been
done that supports this idea. Also, the use of psychoactive mushrooms in the
Mysteries has also been proposed, based on good research. It is now certain that
ancient shamanic cults such as the Mysteries used psychoactive plants to achieve
temporary egodeath and shift the parameters of perception. I believe that the
Gnostics were deeply skilled in the use of psychoactive plants, including
mushrooms. However, I have not found any direct evidence of this in the NHC
materials.
Karmapolis: Some religions and philosophies state that
our material universe is an illusion and a trap and that our consiousness is
tangled in an entropic web of deception. If we believe Castaneda, the human
being is directed by a consciousness that is not its own counscious mind, but
the mind of the predator. This view can sound very dark and pessimistic. What is
the way out of this trap, this mess?
JLL: There is really no trap, but there is a confrontation with the Trickster,
the alien presence in our own minds. Gnostics did not teach that the world, this
physical planet and the realm of the senses, is an illusion or a deception. They
taught that it is a deep and beautiful mystery, but we are blocked from entering
the mystery in depth and in a lucid way by factors in our own minds. The Archons
can insinuate their alien intelligence into our minds, but they cannot control
or take over our minds by sheer force. However, if we let ourselves fall under
their spell, they can entirely rule our minds. This occurs through our
abdication of our own consciousness, not through their domination, however.
The way out of the trap is to discern what is genuinely human in our minds, and
what is inhumane, stupid, mechanical, blind, imitative – in short, we must
understand human potential in order to see how it is distorted and subverted.
Imagine, for instance, that you never heard Beethoven´s 5th symphony played as
it really is, but only a distorted version with the notes totally deformed. You
could only know that the music was distorted if you knew the true, undistorted
version. Likewise, we must realize our authentic minds, our true human
potential, in order to see how we are deviated. This is the challenge of the
predators.
I have a little phrase for this situation: I say, Human potential comes in a
trickster package.
Karmapolis: The “laws” of nature are based on predation
and fear. It is in fact the same thing for mankind, even if it is more subtle.
Everything is based on duality and struggle. Is it possible that it is due to
the influence or the manipulation of the universe by the Archons or the flyers?
Without those creatures, is it possible to think that the world could be
different, not dualistic and predatory, or do you think that dualism is in the
very essence of the universe with or without the Archons?
JLL: This world, meaning life here on the Earth, is actually not as you describe
it. The description you propose is already a result of deviant perception. There
is as much evidence in nature for symbiosis and cooperation as there is for
predation and fear – far more, in fact. The way the Earth works is a symbiotic
miracle, and it is a magical event as well, and so there is no question that it
is due to “the influence or the manipulation of the universe by the Archons or
the flyers.” The Archons influence the way you perceive the world, not the world
itself. The primary power in the world we inhabit is the indwelling divinity of
the planet, the Gaian intelligence, called Sophia by the Gnostics. If you are
aligned to the Gaian intelligence, you do not see the world as a place of fear
and predation, but of beauty, bounty, and magic.
Karmapolis: In the Gnostic tradition, “Sophia” is the
divine entity who made a mistake and created the universe and the Archons. How
can we find and claim the connection with this originator principle and avoid
the contact with the Archons?
JLL: One way to reach Sophia is to surrender to the beauty and majesty of
nature, to enter the mystical presence of the Earth. In nature the mystical and
physical aspects of reality are merged. Beauty is supernatural. The purpose of
Gnostic practices and related shamanic methods was to depart (Fr. sortir, hence
sorcery) from the human social realm, shed the filters of conditioning, and
commune directly with the planetary intelligence, Gaia-Sophia. I believe this
was done through temporary dissolution of the ego with the aid and guidance of
sacred allies, such as plant-teachers. There is no way to avoid the Archons, but
we can build an immunity to them by strengthening our vital bond with
Gaia-Sophia, the living planet. The Archons are aliens who alienate us from
Gaia.
Precise language is important in the expression of living cosmology. Precise
poetic terms, if you will. The Aeon Sophia did not make a mistake and create the
universe and the Archons. She acted unilaterally, without pairing with another
Aeon, and projected herself beyond the galactic core. Aeons are formless powers
in the galactic core of each galaxy. There are many galaxies in the Universe.
Sophia did not create the Universe, she emanated the world order we experience
as the triple system: sun-moon-earth. Sophia did not make a mistake, but she
exaggerated her involvement in her emanation, her Dreaming. Hence, she herself
became embodied in her Dreaming. This is a rare event, not typical of the way
Aeons operate. As a side effect of her excessive involvement in her Dreaming,
Sophia plunged from the galactic core. (Imagine a surge or spike of luminous,
foam-like matter from the galactic core into the encircling arms.) The impact
she made on the elementary matter in the galactic arms produced an inorganic
species, the Archons. The Archons then proceeded to fabricate an inorganic
planetary system, a clockwork mechanism. The Earth, the living planet that
embodies Sophia, was then captured in that lifeless system. This is the
“mistake” – or, better said, the anomaly of our world system.
Karmapolis: In the Gnostic tradition, as I understand
it, Sophia (wisdom) is not the only “Godhead” or source of eternity and
perfection. Can we compare Sophia to a very sophisticated and elaborate advanced
being, some kind of super extraterrestrial intelligence? Or must we admit that
the source of everything is not an unique entity but more a polytheistic concept
?
JLL: In Gnostic cosmology, Sophia is an Aeon, a divinity at the cosmic level,
but she is not alone. She is part of a company of Aeons, the gods of the Pleroma
or Fullness. There are many Pleromas, many galaxies, in the Universe. The
Gnostic myth of the Fallen Goddess is about our galaxy and our planet, not the
entire Universe. If we do not know what´s happening here, locally, how can we
know what´s happening anywhere else in the universe? The test is, to get our
story straight, and then go into the larger story.
Due to the peculiar intensity of her Dreaming, Sophia came to be embodied in the
planet earth and so She is, for us who inhabit the Earth, the very godhead in
which we live. She is the true, living Matrix. Sophia is the Godhead of Nature,
theologically speaking. What is She like? This is something we must come to
understand by practices, through a path of sacred learning, Gnosis. All the
Mysteries were dedicated to knowing Gaia and serving the higher intelligence of
the Aeon Sophia. The “source of everything” is a Mystery. Why speculate on what
we cannot know when we face the adventure of exploring what we can know?
Karmapolis: Despite the bad rumors and perception around
conspiracy theories, what do you think about the other conception of parasitism
represented by Branton, David Icke, and the zulu shaman Credo Mutwa, who deeply
believe that the parasite is in fact a reptilian entity and that this entity
shadows or invades the bodies of the rulers of this world, people like George
Bush ?
JLL: I think that we need to train our imaginations to detect the presence of
alien entities, and distinguish what is real from what is fantasy. The
alchemists had a rule: Proceed according to nature, observing the
workings of nature, and perform the Great Work with the true powers of
imagination, not with fantasy thinking. This is a matter of discipline
we face on the path of heightened perception. I believe that some indigenous
sources such as Credo Mutwa have valid things to say about the Archons. At the
same time, I suspect that the reptilian scenario is blown out of proportion due
to fantasy thinking and mental manipulation. As far as I know, the alien
predators called Archons by the Gnostics can take two forms, embryonic (the Grey
ETs) and drakonic, a reptilian type, but they cannot and do not possess the
bodies of human beings.
There is an element of common sense that must be maintained in considering
paranormal and supernatural phenomena. George Bush does not have to be a
reptilian to be a monster. We need to recognize that human beings can act in
monstrous ways because they are deviated by the reptilian predators, without
adopting the fantasy that they are actually turned into reptilians. To me the
scenario proposed by Icke and others gives too much power to the predators. How
then, can Icke and his witnesses offer first-hand evidence of reptilian
shapeshifting? Well, perception is a construct. All perception. Bear in
mind that the Archons are masters of virtual reality. In Coptic (the language of
the NHC) this is called HAL, “simulation”. Gnostic texts say that the Archons
“abduct souls by night.” This is done through virtual reality, VR simulation
techniques. Of course, the “VR” of the Archons is as real for them as our earth
reality is for us. The difference is, we cannot interact symbiotically with VR.
The other difference is, the Archons manipulate inorganic quantum fields, but we
manipulate the perceptual bands that shape those fields. Gnostics taught that we
are superior to the Archons in thought, perception, and intention.
I would say that these reports are existentially true: the witnesses have
perceived shapeshifting, but the perception is an effect of the reptilian powers
of VR rather than a genuine phenomenon, an event in nature. Serpents are born
from eggs, and they shed skins. This is what nature shows us, and it can tell us
something about how reptilians behave if we approach this matter with genuine
imagination and not fantasy.
Karmapolis: Some authors (like Paul Von Ward) denounce
YHVH or Yahveh as an advanced being, an extraterrestrial entity who wants to
rule our world with not really pure and nice intentions. Do you believe that
YHVH is an Archon or the representative of the Archons?
JLL: Gnostic texts clearly state that Jehovah is the “Lord Archon,” a reptilian
type of alien predator who dominates the hive-mentality of the embryonic or Grey
aliens. Jehovah, whom the Gnostics called Yaldabaoth, is truly an
extraterrestrial being whose realm is the planetary system independent of the
earth, sun and moon. He is not an “advanced being” (i.e., more evolved than
humans) but a demented alien with certain superhuman or deific powers. Gnostics
taught that Jehovah infects humanity with the belief that he is their creator
god, but in fact he cannot create anything. The NHC is very clear that
Jehovah-Yaldabaoth is the commander of the Archon species.
Karmapolis: The Gnostics denounce the role of the
Archons. Did you find the same kind of warning in other religious traditions ?
JLL: No, I can´t say that I have found this information so clearly and
thoroughly stated in other religious traditions. Bear in mind that Gnosis was a
path of knowledge, not a religion. The Mysteries were schools of paranormal
knowledge, not religious institutions. I am convinced that all religion is a
deviant from human potential, but the three Abrahamic religions, Judaism,
Christianity and Islam, are potentially lethal. They lead to terminal deviation
of our species. You will not find any religion that warns you that it is
dangerous to your mental health and your physical survival. Gnostics saw in
salvationist religion both the evidence and instrument of alien intrusion.
Karmapolis: The Gnostic teachings and the Mysteries
Schools are the same thing, in our view. Conspiracy theorists like Springmeier
and Icke believe that satanic rituals came from mystery schools and think that
Mystery Schools are the roots of Satanic and ritual abuses, the Illuminati and
the Masonic tradition. How and why do those authors make the relation between
mysteries schools, Illuminism and Satanism? Why do they denounce with so much
violence both the the Gnostic and Mysteries Schools and Roman Catholic religion,
when we know that the Gnostics were persecuted by the Roman Catholics?
JLL: Icke and other conspiracy theorists who propose alien intervention are
unfamiliar with the Mysteries, I suspect, for two reasons: first, they do not
have direct experience of ego death and instruction by the Light comparable to
the experience in the Mysteries, and second, they cannot distinguish the methods
and motives of the Illuminati from the genuine Gnostics. The Illuminati were
deranged initiates, who had deep knowledge of Mystery practices but misused it
to acquire social and political power. The Mystery Schools were not training
camps for Illuminati, as Icke believes. This is a grave error on his part. Due
to lack of direct experience, Icke and the others are unable to realize that
adepts of the Serpent Power (Kundalini) were directly opposed to the Illuminati
who made a pact with the reptilian powers. As I have explained in my articles,
we are given Kundalini as the force to repel alien intrusion. The benign,
healing Serpent is not a reptilian entity but an innate component of our divine
biological inheritence. Speculation and research (even research as good as
Icke´s) cannot teach us to make such distinctions. Only direct experience can.
Illuminati were strictly forbidden to participate in the Mysteries, once they
had been detected. In other words, the Illuminati were practitioners of occult
sciences (mainly, imprinting and mind control) who had to be expelled from the
Mysteries… but this is a story (an extremely important story, I might add) of
which Icke and the others seem to be totally ignorant.
Karmapolis: What are the conceptions of heaven and hell
in Gnostic terms?
JLL: There is no conception of heaven and hell in Gnostic teachings.
Karmapolis: Clive Prince and Lynn Pycknett in a book
called The Stargate Conspiracy denounce the fact that with the New Age, global
manipulation will create a syncretism (a mix of Buddhism, Hinduism, and the
three religions of the Book), a new one world religion based on old Egyptian
cult and the worship of the “Council of the 9.” In this new religion, we find
the book the "Keys of Enoch” and people like James Hurtak and Andrea Puharich,
the order of Melchisedech (that we find also in the Mormon cult). What do you
think about this? Is it another manipulation from the Archons?
JLL: I think all this is a fantasy shared by people desperate for power and
spiritual status, and some elements of these scenarios may be affected by
Archontic deviation. The challenge in facing the alien Tricksters is to discern
what is really deviant and dangerous, by contrast to mere folly and foolishness.
There is a lot of foolishness in new world order conspiracy theories. There is a
lot of spiritual phoniness and pretence among people who channel “the council of
the Nine.” This has been going on for many years now… The problem here is, the
fantasy material is like quicksand: you just sink into it and you cannot crawl
out. With the clear and precise indications given by Gnostics about the Archons,
we can begin to see what is happening in our minds and correct the madness –
although we must do this one by one, individually, for we cannot correct the
madness in the minds of others.
June 2005 Brussels
From: http://www.metahistory.org/INTERVIEWS/KarmapolisJLL.php
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